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Hmmm ..You got sold a dud on the Great Firewall of Australia (aka the Clean Filter). Duncan is a stirrer and is tolatly miss representing the Fliter. Have you read his post? Suggesting that the government is going to shutdown some of the things he mentioned is just Scare Mongering, I mean email? Come on. I did try to point this out to Duncan, but it seems that he is an expert in Censorship as every time I make an argument against his points, he deletes them. It seems he is more into name calling then debating the issue at hand: . So be careful who you believe, there is a lot scare mongering (probably on both sides to be fair) in this debate. HTHMolly